So easy to tell some of you are not actually pilots because you know nothing about the crew procedures. INSANE makes NO sense to me No problem. Also, the US is rolling governments around the world, including in the US, are doing more surveillance of their own citizens - let alone others from other countries. Crewmembers should follow TSA instructions and not attempt to resolve the issue with TSA officers as they are unable to rectify system failures or denials. Effective March 31, 2022, the TSA will require KCM eligible crewmembers to scan a KCM-issued barcode card when utilizing a KCM access point. Cops, firefighters and paramedics are first responders. Sold! I have also seen pilots try to bring animals or children through KCM with them. Instead theres a special lane they can go through, where they have to scan their badge, and then they can pass right through the checkpoint, without being screened. TSA is out of controltheir job is to prevent a 9-11but today they are covid mask enforcers, DEA agents, uniform police etc etcKCM was paid for and pushed in by ALPA with alpa duesthe F/A's got in for free and ruined it. Battery-powered electronic smoking devices, such as "e-cigarettes, e-cigs, e-cigars, e-pipes, e-hookahs, personal vaporizers, electronic nicotine delivery systems," can be brought as carry-on items only. Other countries check their own and I have never witnessed this in the US. Get your facts straight! Pilots are not easily replaced, flight attendants are. Now there's a delayairline management won't like that idea. When youre randomly checked five or six times in a row, its easy to cop a tude. These items must accompany the crew member upon . Today's airline management and unions only care that the males can wear the female uniforms, makeup, tattoos, or fingernail polish, because it keeps the "price down". You're about as much of a "first responder" as the senior citizen who greets people at Walmart. Full screening. At least flight attendants have to meet some kind of standards and have a lot to lose. Crewmembers are also subject to random inspection anywhere after security including onboard the aircraft before departure. That is not correct. c. May not access the sterile area through the KCM access point if any portion of their travel itinerary includes personal international travel. : ). I'm a 44 year flight attendant. startxref I ever wondered what if one of these TSA screeners or even a LEO get jumped in the Employees parking lot or else where and their uniform stolen?. It also has warned that such violations could jeopardize the entire Known Crew Member program. The sticky problem here is that a crew member bringing in a pound of drugs could just as easily be bringing in something that could harm an aircraft. IATA - Personalised Passport, Visa & Health travel documentation advice All Crewmembers transiting a KCM portal are subject to random screening. KCM provides crewmembers with an alternative entry point into airport sterile areas, which may be separate from the passenger security-screening lanes. They are picked up and dropped off from the ramp. You, Mr "peepee" sound as though you already have a preconceived notion about flight attendants and are lumping us all together. And not using the KCM line. Perhaps we should make it easy for flight attendants to get to the aircraft too? Seriously??? Interesting SMR? 0000008870 00000 n So it's not that they don't understand the reputation-restricted nature of items; it's that they have the rep and still can't buy the items. Instead of addressing their mess, they are looking to SHOW how they are making changes to "Protect the public" by using us crew as an example. Our frustration has absolutely nothing to do with entitlement. A:A crewmember will be issued a KCM barcode card from their participating airline management staff. As it is, the random screenings have increased exponentially - to the point where crew members are tempted to go through the pre check line anyway to avoid an extra step of waiting for someone to tell you to go there. Known Crewmember Program Information The National Air Transportation Association (NATA) and NATA Compliance Services (NATACS) is pleased to offer the Known Crewmember Program (KCM ) to certain Part 135 and Part 125 air charter pilots. We will just have more delayed flights. In my opinion and observations, many of the violations that have As a result of having the FAA certificate, they are allowed to use the KCM lines. Flight attendants should have a probationary period and then allowed in as well. I dont know if any pilots who have been caught in the USA smuggling drugs. Keep dreaming. When the JetBlue flight attendant in LAX got caught with cocaine shortly after F/As were included in the program, we all saw the writing on the wall. You walk on your own to TSA Pre and wait in line with everyone else. We ask for your cooperation as Transportation Security Officers (TSOs) become familiar with this KCM policy change. If the investigation does not result in a regulatory finding, KCM privileges will be restored when the investigation is closed. Look, your job could be replaced by a cardboard sign with a red arrow painted on it and a vending machine. If they can make their annual salary as a flight attendant with a couple of runs, then they might figure its worth the risk. 2) You want to make the people who cross umpteen timezones for your safety stand around like the rest of you cheap cattle car bovines, watch crews take their sweet time at the back of the two hour line to get through security. {uyn1j~_L;t26mHMSY%?kbS&eGo?3/_fbd^`Gv`!=XYX+\GGGGGGEES%%%%%%y;`-^Sc;_y^1}iF3 As for their excuse as to why theyre increasing random security checks, its kind of a dumb argument. Hours? Should be required to use clear backpacks or purses to pass security/ metal detectors should be used and nothing else should be allowed on premises. While I am an airline pilot, I fly for a major cargo airline and thankfully dont have to deal with the incompetent TSA smurfs. Can't buy restricted items? - The Outer Worlds: General Discussion (NO 2,056 Sq. Nevertheless, we know it takes man power and probably effects First, crew members appreciate having a KCM check point. The statistics dont lie. So easy to tell some of you are not actually pilots because you know nothing about the crew procedures. 0000002043 00000 n Stay mad, everyone. Seriously??? There should be employee TSA entrance, no sense of having crews who show up last minute, which is understandable not having an employee entrance. Thank you. Responsibilities Conduct administrative duties and errands as required Items Prohibited from Federal Facilities: 4 An Interagency Security Committee Standard List of Prohibited Items 4.0 Lists of Prohibited Items The items that are prohibited in Federal facilities include any item prohibited by any applicable Federal, State, local, and tribal law and/or ordinance, as well as firearms, dangerous weapons, But it's ridiculous to get rid of a program that seems to be working fairly good so far. Now there's a delayairline management won't like that idea. PDF Known Crewmember Fact Sheet - Air Line Pilots Association, International The exception is that employees will sometimes be randomly selected to be screened, and the number of random screenings has reportedly increased significantly in recent months (and will continue to increase). These include cultural goods, wild fauna and flora and products derived from these, vegetables and plant products, weapons and ammunition, medicines, tobacco and alcoholic beverages. Crewmembers who do not have a KCM barcode card, have a worn/unreadable barcode card, or have not completed the registration process will be referred to the passenger screening checkpoint for entry into the airport sterile area. Ive also witnessed on more than one occasion a pilot attempt to bring a family member through KCM and then throw a hissy fit when theyre turned away. Dont worry about that connecting flight in Denver thanks. I promise you that! I fly for an international freight airline. COVID cruises: Ships sailed on despite the coronavirus, and thousands Crewmembers who do not have a KCM barcode card, have a worn/unreadable barcode card, or have not completed the registration process will be referred to the passenger screening checkpoint for entry into the airport sterile area If a crewmember does not present an active KCM barcode card and is referred for screening, they must follow the TSOs instructions and complete the screening process at the passenger screening checkpoint. Our frustration has absolutely nothing to do with entitlement. For those passengers saying we are using a program that they are paying for. If the crewmember iswearinga uniform, the crewmember must present a KCM barcode card and a non-expired: Aircraft operator-issued crewmember photo ID or National Air Transport Association ID. However, off-duty crews should ALWAYS have to proceed thru the TSA security checkpoints like regular passengers. Q. TSOs are directed toadvisecrewmembers utilizing the KCM access points of the following procedures that arenotallowed. And no one has said who pays for KCM now but it does cost something to operate and that funding should move to the TSA. The current iteration of the KCM program has been around since 2011. after being told you got a random. Some categories of people are exempt from the normal security process after identity and background checks (though they are still subject to random checks), such as flight crew, some senior government officials with security details, police officers who are required to fly armed (this isn . A flight attendant like a pilot, goes through random drug tests. There is no rolling back what the TSA currently does - like it or not. Also, according to you, pilots don't have to because "." does this mean pilots can't do exactly what yiu allege FAs are doing? Ok, back to your BarcaLounger. The Known Crewmember (KCM) program is a joint initiative between Airlines for America (A4A) and the Air Line Pilots Association, Int'l (ALPA).KCM ties airline employee databases together in a seamless way and enables Transportation Security Administration (TSA) security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of Throw the book at the offenders. When you are selected for random, at Denver for instance, you are told to go to random screening. When it was expanded to include flight attendants, we almost immediately saw issues developing. At the end of a flight cabin crew members are there to make sure that passengers disembark the aircraft safely. The problem is flight attendants abusing KCM. Because flight attendants would bring something to harm their day at work? KCM was a tremendous privilege these years we enjoyed it. Sporting goods, kitchen utensils, tools, and other items with sharp edges or points capable of injuring a person. Report: TSA Ending Known Crewmember Program In 2023 Other Airline Flight Attendants have told me that some of their colleagues have been terminated for violating KCM policies. Yes, I am furious. Your password can only be changed once per 24 hours. Remember, the crew may instead check your carry-on luggage when embarking, so if you carry any electronics that break the MSC drone policy, they may be confiscated until the end of the cruise. The perpetrator will gain access without a doubt because they're never checked as they walk in. Imagine getting upeset that people smuggling narcotics are getting caught. Its really an interesting take when you mention pilots dont need to be screened as much. Some times 10 or 15 TSA screeners at the same time. This is also known as the 3-1-1 liquids rule. This enhanced process leverages current technology to provide an effective and cost-efficient solution. If your pass has a SSSS printed on it, you must undergo selectee screening at the passenger screening checkpoint. Work closely with your union or become a rep to improve work rules and pay at your airline to make respecting your job more appealing. Flight attendants are worthless. You also are aware that pilots have had their fair share of violations with kcm too, right? All rights reserved. We are required to sign in at latest 1 hr before departure. Many of them have very poor attitudes and thats because they deal with people all day long and its not easy. Crew members may not transit the KCM portal with any TSA prohibited items. After X amount of time if (when) violations decrease, then just make KCM (or ECA) for pilots only. As of publication, at least 922 crew members have been infected and at least 11 have died from COVID-19. If you have been issued a temporary government issued photo ID and it is your only form of government issued identification, proceed to the passenger screening checkpoint or employee screening location to access the airport sterile area. Having an off duty employee pass rider clogging up lines that they didnt subscribe/pay for is spitting into face of As a paying subscriber of CLEAR & TSAPre, I would welcome a dedicated crew/employee line for those employees that are working. Flight attendants are consistently being found to bring prohibited items (including drugs, even though that's not what TSA is looking for) through KCM. We launched Prohibited Items Week for the first time last year as a way to highlight the great work of our officers in airports across the country. A: No. Say hello to people and ask them how they are doing. Are allowed front-of-the-line access atTSA PreCheck lanes and standard passenger screening lanes. TSA never figured it out, who screens TSA agents? General. knives or knife-like (whether or not made of metal), including leather working knives. The crew may have to deal with several emergencies such as cabin fires or first aid situations. First as the article stated, pilots fly the airplane so and second, at most major airports ground personnel do not have to clear security at all, ever! Flight crews already have to arrive hours before their flight and are not even getting paid. Upon returning to work, it is recommended that the crewmember contact their airline management or crew records department to see if your KCM file has been reactivated. Imagine having to wait in a security up to 3 hours when you already have to show up 1-2 hours beforehand. I was next and was told I need further screening tho I did not ring told FA cannot be further screened so I have to be screened??? Only 1 per person/crew member allowed (II) Safety cover is securely fitted over the heating element . The fact that some flight attendants may feel differently does not change reality. Life boats are located on Deck 8. Learn more. Sorry the rule applies if you don't like it then leave. My cousin is a flight attendant that flys internationally from South America to the United States. As it is, many of us follow the rules and are constantly being chosen to go to regular security; I have no issue with going through but it has become and everyday event for most honest people. I'm laughing my ass off at all of these angry flight attendants and pilots saying TSA shouldn't worry about drugs lol. I do agree that some Flight Attendants have ruined it a lot by doing wrong but if they cancel the program and don't provide an alternative you'll see the number of Flight Attendants dropping drastically because none of us would go stand for 3-4 hours in TSA and then at the gate without getting paid. I am flight crew, and for all flight crew here talking about going to the end of the line, taking your sweet time to delay the flight, etc.youve got it wrong. Please remember you said this when YOU have a medical emergency or a general emergency (ie. Crew members know the rules - the bad apples just are overly confident they wont be held accountable. Known Crewmember - Association of Flight Attendants-CWA But only if you're nice. The vast majority of crew use KCM exactly as they should and are law abiding. While you have no idea what its like going through security as many times as we do with our heavy bag, etc, as many times as we do, it is actually quite frustrating to walk up to kcm and be randomed 2/3 of the time. Forgot your username or password? . The 282-ton . A flight attendant, also known as steward / stewardess or air host / air hostess, is a member of the aircrew aboard commercial flights, many business jets and some government aircraft. Have a little fun with this!!! Would have been cool if Clayton Osbon had a gun too right? in order to get funding for another 10 years, whenin fact, they are not. However, crewmembers on an extended leave of absence greater than 30 days, to include: disability, Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA), military deployment, voluntary leave of absence, furlough, suspension, termination, retirement, or other leave of absence must be suspended or removed from the KCM system. Also a lot of airports, like Ohare, dont require ground crew to go through security check points. The ones at my company who seem to be on a regular basis are the same ones complaining to the union all the time, whining all night long about this that and the other. Goose step much Herr Pee Brain? CREW MEMBER | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary Emirates restricts all smart balance wheels (with or without lithium batteries removed) to be transported as checked-in or carry-on luggage. TSA doesn't screen for drugs. A KCM denial could result from a database error that is nonspecific to that crewmember, or it might involve a miscommunication with the crewmembers airline database. 11/21/22 Notice to KCM Participating Airlines, 6/29/22 Notice to KCM Participating Airlines, 3/1/22 Notice to KCM Participating Crewmembers, 6/23/20 Notice to KCM Participating Crewmembers, A non-expired government-issued photo ID; and, An aircraft operator-issued crewmember photo ID. NAVIGATION WARNINGS ENR 5.1 Prohibited, Restricted, and Other Areas. Imagine having to go through security and adding extra unpaid time to your job every time you went to work. after being told you got a random. 0000003664 00000 n This enhanced identity-verification and employment-confirmation system for airline pilots will make airport checkpoint screening more efficient for all who depend on air transportation by removing airline pilots from passenger screening lines. @CHRIS , whoa there boyfriend. As of 2023, the TSA will allegedly be introducing Expedited Crew Access, which will replace the Known Crewmember Program. 0000000016 00000 n It's the easiest post. Failure to submit to screening at the passenger screening checkpoint (e.g., using a SIDA badge to avoid screening) is considered circumvention of screening, and TSA may take enforcement action in accordance with the KCM Disqualification Protocols (KCMDP). I will however, proceed to explain that there is a necessity to have minimum crew on board to board passengers which I do realize you do not deal with. You seem to be missing the point and just jumping on the offense instead. all while putting up with ATTITUDES & MINDSETS from people like you! Any self respecting smuggler can take that on one flight, depending on what drug it is. 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