Replaced the filters, replaced 10 qts of fluid and it appeared that there was fluid on the dipstick so I decided to take her out for a test drive. Posts: 19,927. Refunds will then be initiated to your credit card (or original method of payment). 180 ILL NO. IMHO, a xmission that costs >15K, needs to be treated with caution. Is that on a Freightliner chassis? Allison Transmission TES 468 Approved Fluids are approved for use in Allison H 40/50 EP on-highway products and may be used anywhere a TES 295 product is specified. The MD3060 came from a '98 motorhome/coach and it was attached to a P pump 5.9 Cummins 12v and as far as the harness it looks like one on the only inputs from the motor would be the TPS and a temp sender. Allison Transmission TES 295 Approved Fluids are approved for use in Allison 1000 Series, 2000 Series, 3000 Series, 4000 Series and H 40/50 EP on-highway products. 99 Truck Parts You must log in or register to reply here. You can find links to relevant notices and more information about ExxonMobils privacy program here. On Shelf . You can find links to relevant notices and more information about ExxonMobils privacy program, http://www.msds.exxonmobil.com/psims/psims.aspx, Privacy center (Do not sell or share my personal information), Other equipment requiring Allison TES-295 and TES-468 or MB-Approval 236.91 performance levels. CITGO SynDurance 668 Automatic Transmission Fluid, SK HD 668 Fully Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid, Valvoline Syn Gard 668 Automatic Transmission Fluid, Rugged 668 HD Synthetic Transmission Fluid, HD SYN DRIVE Full Synthetic Transmission Fluid, PurTrax Heavy Duty Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid, Mobil Delvac Synthetic ATF / Mobil Delvac 1 ATF, Transtar Allison TES Certified Full Synthetic ATF, John Deere - HD Synthetic Transmission Fluid, Castrol ATF Heavy Duty / Transmax ATF Heavy Duty, Vehicle Electrification + Environmental Test Center. I realise that they are conservatively rated, just like a B Cummins in a MDT compared to a Dodge. The Allison Owner's manual is not really clear on this point. I guess it means you have to change your transmission fluid every 48 months even if it is Transynd? First time go to an Allison shop, be a pest and observe. We have a 1997 Discovery motorhome with 5.9 Cummins and an Allison MD3060 six speed transmission on a Freightliner chassis. sort by: sale. These tables are a little confusing to me! Mobil Delvac 1 ATF is recommended by ExxonMobil for use in: Call 1-800-662-4525 with product questions. However, if you drain the sump, additional fluid is required approaching 19 or so quarts, so the situation has been demystified. All I can figure is that the PO filled it to capacity, not knowing any different. Gary I do have a transmission dipstick and hadn't thought about using that. How is a tranny that huge and from a MH only rated at 275hp?? For some reason the dipstick always has transmission fluid about 6" above any mark, even though it is being checked when the fluid is cold. Return Address: If you would like to discuss it further, you can contact me directly. The reason I am looking at the MD3060 is there is one close I can pick up for the same cost as an Allison AT545. This product has the following approvals: VOITH TURBO DIWA Service Bulletin 013 -Extended Drain, VOITH TURBO DIWA Service Bulletin 118 - Extended Drain, Brookfield Viscosity @ -40 C, mPa.s, ASTM D2983, Kinematic Viscosity @ 100 C, mm2/s, ASTM D445, Kinematic Viscosity @ 40 C, mm2/s, ASTM D445, Health and Safety recommendations for this product can be found on the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) @ http://www.msds.exxonmobil.com/psims/psims.aspx. Canada. You are using an out of date browser. This website uses cookies to improve your experience. I think the HPCR Cummins has the CANbus mentioned above, but not 100%. Introducing the next generation of synthetic on-highway automatic transmission fluid, Allison Transmission TES 668. PTO version is 32.49" long and weighs 575lbs. I have enough fluid to make another whole fluid change-over. Key features and benefits include. What do the rest of you do? The tranny is awfully large though you guys are right about that. Allison TES 668 Approved Fluids are recommended for use in Allison 1000 Series, 2000 Series, 3000 Series, 4000 Series and H 40/50 EP on-highway products. Industrial lubricants by equipment builder. Surrey, BC V3T 2T1 add to cart. Basking in Project paradise latest addition '83 dodge Crew Cab needing a Cummins have a 5 speed version of it. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. This is a very common. TES 668 builds upon the proven 20-year record of TES 295 synthetic fluid by delivering the same great performance with a modern additive package. Now I have 37,000. 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The PTO is rated at 485ft/lbs using one PTO and just over 600lb/ft for both. I torqued the bolts to 40. This enables us to make the structure, navigation, and content of our Website as user friendly as possible. Thanks Gary. Keeps transmissions clean to extend life and performance even under some of the harshest driving conditions. Thanks everyone for all the replies. While you're busy planning next trip, we'll focus on finding you the offers and content that you care about. I thought that I would lose a lot more than that. These cookies are used to determine which parts of our Website interest our visitors. As I've had the dealer change the fluid when I bought the truck in 2015, it's the first time for me changing the tranny fluid/filter. This discussion is proudly sponsored by: Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2 Thread Tools Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free! bench buddy 4-piece brush set for valve bore polishing & more: bb100 by superior . I read something about an Internal filter that I will have to ask the service manager about when I buy the parts. Shipping is done through Canada Post and is usually delivered in 4 or 5 business days. I need to tackle that project as well!!! Allison Transmission TES 389 Approved Fluids are approved for use in traditional on-highway products. Health and Safety recommendations for this product can be found on the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) @, Your privacy is important to us and we want you to understand our practices with respect to the gathering and handling of your personal data. Help on switching browsers can be found online. The time that the refund appears on your card is dependent on your card issuers policy. Call for Price Plus Shipping & Handling. It offers outstanding gear shifting and power transfer performance. Some cookies are placed by third party services that appear on our pages. Is the dipstick wrong and the engine simply throws it out or burns it? 99 Truck Parts provides ground shipping to the United States (lower 48) and across Canada on most parts. The MD3060 came from a '98 motorhome/coach and it was attached to a P pump 5.9 Cummins 12v and as far as the harness it looks like one on the only inputs from the motor would be the TPS and a temp sender. This helps us guarantee that there are no defects in any of the parts we send out. endstream endobj 183 0 obj <>stream Then you won't have to do it again for 100,000 miles. By signing up for ExxonMobil Lubricants marketing communications using this form, you agree to accept the frequency of communications as deemed appropriate by our campaign manager. Faster shipping methods are available at an additional cost. Once the item is received it will be inspected to ensure it is in the same condition and quality as when it was sent out. Sorry to drag up an old thread, but I am working on swapping a standard transmission in an international 4900 series over to an allison md3060. I have decided there are 2 possible schedules to follow: Thanks Brett and Steve. is rated (and warrantied) for. Gary, you hit the nail on the head and it is good information for others who might attempt servicing their own transmission. If so, view our frequently asked questions below to find the answer you are looking for. ~Gyn|YDpQ K>1\T3 ;Q' adn2@&7]OFTz0W Pmg5d;TZgb3HHk[FM5yZHElt>Qm9t\w_X!L I read that it takes 29 quarts so I am curious about how many I will have to buy so as not to have too many extra gallons of $35.10 oil left over! If you want that capacity in liters, then you are looking at 28 liters for the deeper pan and 25 for the shallower or regular pan. I agree to the Terms and Privacy*. Work Order. Allison MD3060 Fluid/Filter Change - Airstream Forums Airstream Forums > > Airstream Motorhome Forums > Mechanics Corner - Engines, Transmission & More. Theis generation ushered in the computer-based diagnostic era, which meant you could use a variety of diagnostic tools to connect to the Allison Transmissions to read codes, clear codes, perform diagnostic commands, and more. I don't know too much, but I read the torque on the filter bolts was 37-43 FT lbs? Allison Technical Assistance Center (TAC) Fluid + Filter Information. You can find links to relevant notices and more information about ExxonMobils privacy program here. Yesterday we loaded up the motorhome and was backing up to hook up a trailer. Outstanding film-strength and anti-wear properties. Many motorhome manufacturers use the 4" sump which uses the 6" filters. I received a reply to a personal message I sent to Allisonman and he responded that the two filter cavities are isolated from the main sump and if you only replace the filters without draining the sump, the 10.5 quart value is close to being correct. 12905 King George Blvd Anyone else have high fluid on their dipstick? JavaScript is disabled. Allison 1000 Transmission Fluid Capacity You may get tired of hearing this, but there are three good sources for knowing your Allison transmission fluid capacity. Mechanics Corner - Engines, Transmission & More Airstream Trailer & Motorhome Owners Community, Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1. Input and retainers can be changed for different BM numbers or serial numbers as necessary. Here is a video on some issues I had with my Allison MD3060 WTECII control module. It may not display this or other websites correctly. First, it's a pretty simple procedure and their are a bunch of posts and YouTube videos on the topic. If anyone else can think of anything else, I appreciate it. The tranny is awfully large though you guys are right about that. When it is at operating temperature I always use the UP and DOWN arrows. MD3060 fluid recommend Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts. Thread Tools Display Modes On the road and the engine will not idle | Top | P30 split diagonal brake system? You should get 17 and 19 quarts inside the transmission depending on the fluid pan used for your particular model. I've decided this is one of life's mysteries that I will never come to know, so as long as the engine is happy I buy the 7 gals of 15W40 and a new filter every year and pour myself an adult libation to celebrate when I'm done. . Thanks. Gary, Here is the end of the story! Re: Allison MD3060P Specs Reply #3 on: April 03, 2013, 11:52:13 AM Non PTO 3000 series is 28.29" long and weighs 535lbs. Use our locator tool to find out where to buy Mobil Delvac products in your area. If you copy the serial number, you can go the the Allison website and get all the info on your transmission. So sometimes you would be changing your filters without changing the fluid, I guess? Most MD3060 (at least the shallow sumps) take around 19 quarts for a chance (not initial fill). The filter holds about 1.2 quarts, so where did the rest go? Now if only I could figure out why I drain 5.5 gallons of oil from my ISL engine, but have to put almost 7 gals back in to read "full". Contact us: Well, the excitement is not over yet. Drove about 8 miles to a nearby Lowes where there was a nice level parking lot and pulled up and went into the electronic oil level check mode and the indicator, after a period of "settling" time, said that I was 4 quarts low. If you are unsure, call Allison with your transmission serial # and they can tell you. Allison recommends TES 668 Approved Fluids to extend drain intervals and enhance transmission performance and durability in all operating environments. Then, you'll be good for 300,000 miles before another transmission fluid change is needed unless it gets contaminated. It offers outstanding gear shifting and power transfer performance. Thanks for understanding. Thanks for the tip on leaving one of the bolts in so I don't get a bath. I only lost 1/2 gallon in the process? http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/faq/index.jsp?CategoryID=6. We Have You Covered Extended Transmission Coverage (ETC) Harness the Power of Genuine TES 668 Transmission Fluid Your Fleet of Information Allison HUB Premium Allison Genuine Reman Ready When You Are My Transmission and Fluid + Filter Calculator pages are now located on the HUB under SERVICE menu HUB Account Login Username Password Log in So I'm askingis the 10.5 qt the correct value for the shallow (2") pan?